About
By the time I discovered the joy of talking about talking, while studying communication at the University of Utah, I'd already spent nearly a decade in group home management, learning how to connect with all kinds of people — clients and coworkers alike. It was a uniquely rich place to learn how people actually convey meaning, long before I had language for what I was doing.
After graduation, I turned the conflict concepts and dialogue techniques inward. Working through a period of real confusion in my life, I discovered I wasn't of one mind — I met four distinct parts of myself, each certain they had my best interests at heart, and each getting in my way. Giving them a voice, sometimes through writing and art, and sometimes out loud, I mediated between them as they argued their case. This was where theory and lived experience finally caught up with each other.
I brought what I learned back into the world — spending seven more years in retail management, where I helped shift a team's culture from skeptical apathy to genuine trust and support, with the numbers, and the customers, to prove it. All told, it's been more than fifteen years of learning — in practice, not just in theory — what it actually takes to help people work well together.
I find all of this genuinely fascinating — I love talking about talking, and I can't wait to do it with you. When I'm not working, I spend my time with my son making art, enjoying our garden, camping in the Utah mountains and desert, and playing with our two cats, Marsha and Mellow, and our awesome dog Sasha.
“Knowing I am more gives me full permission both to fully identify with a particular aspect and to then freely let it go. It’s like trying on a costume; we can have great fun wearing it and then take it off when we want to.”
- Cindy Lou Golin, The Shadow Playbook
Foundations
Integral Theory & Adult Development - Ken Wilber
Integral Theory has influenced the way I think about human development, perspective-taking, and our capacity to engage with increasing complexity. It reminds me that growth is not about becoming someone else, but about expanding our ability to include more of ourselves, others, and the world around us.
Voice Dialogue & Big Mind - Hal Stone, Sidra Stone, & Genpo Roshi
Voice Dialogue and the Big Mind process introduced me to working directly with multiple perspectives within “the self” and remain among the earliest influences on my parts-oriented practice. These approaches invite people to speak from distinct aspects of the psyche, bringing greater awareness to the many voices, needs, and viewpoints that shape our lives and relationships.
Process Work & Deep Democracy - Arnold Mindell
This work expanded my understanding of conflict and group dynamics. Process Work emphasizes that every person, emotion, symptom, and marginalized voice carries valuable information. I am inspired by the freedom that comes from including what's often ignored, forgotten, or resisted by the room — recognizing that these are an important part of building sustainable solutions.
Myth, Symbolism, & Jungian Psychology - Clarissa Pinkola Estés
The study of myth, symbols, dreams, and the unconscious has been one of the deepest influences on both my personal life and my work. Clarissa Pinkola Estés taught me to notice patterns, images, and symbols that emerge through dreams, imagination, and relationships. Her work as a storyteller and Jungian analyst reminds me that the whole picture cannot be accessed through logic alone and that intuition, emotion, and sensation are valid ways of knowing.
Education and Credentials:
Utah State Court Roster of Mediators, 2026
Certificate in Mediation, Utah Dispute Resolution, 2023
Certificate in Integral Facilitation, Ten Directions, 2018
Graduate Certificate in Conflict Resolution, University of Utah 2010
Bachelors in Communication, University of Utah, 2010
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